Ron Paul Supporters Are Liberals — RedState.com
Ron Paul supporters are not Republicans according to RedState.com, so they’re going to limit what Ron Paul supporters can say on the web site. Isn’t speech supposed to be for all people, RedState?
Not only are Ron Paul supporters “a bunch of liberals pretending to be Republicans,” but they are now restricted in their use of the RedState.com website. In a stunning move against supporters of a Republican candidate for President of the United States, the powers that be at RedState.com, a magnet site on the conservative end of the political spectrum, has decided to censor those from the party RedState supports. I got this stunning news from Politico, but let’s look at Leon H. Wolf’s words. He’s from RedState. (Since comments are closed on this post over at RedState, I invite Ron Paul supporters to comment here by posting nearly all of Wolf’s rant:
Effective immediately, new users may *not* shill for Ron Paul in any way shape, form or fashion. Not in comments, not in diaries, nada. If your account is less than 6 months old, you can talk about something else, you can participate in the other threads and be your zany libertarian self all you want, but you cannot pimp Ron Paul. Those with accounts more than six months old may proceed as normal.
Now, I could offer a long-winded explanation for *why* this new policy is being instituted, but I’m guessing that most of you can probably guess. Unless you lack the self-awareness to understand just how annoying, time-consuming, and bandwidth-wasting responding to the same idiotic arguments from a bunch of liberals pretending to be Republicans can be. Which, judging by your comment history, you really don’t understand, so allow me to offer an alternate explanation: we are a bunch of fascists and we’re upset that you’ve discovered where we keep the black helicopters, so we’re silencing you in an attempt to keep you from warning the rest of your brethren so we can round you all up and send you to re-education camps all at once.
Hey, we’re sure *some* of Ron Paul’s supporters really are Republicans. They can post at any one of a zillion Ron Paul online forums. Those who have *earned* our respect by contributing usefully for a substantial period of time will be listened to with appropriate respect. Those who have not will have to *earn* that respect by contributing usefully in the other threads… and not mentioning Ron Paul. Given a month of solid contributing, send one of us an email and we’ll consider lifting the restriction on your account.
You may now resume your regularly scheduled RedState activities. Everyone but the Ron Paul spammers, that is. You can resume your regularly scheduled activities somewhere else.
Man, there’s trouble in RedStateland. Imagine! They’ve got a candidate doing far better than anyone thought he could. ron Paul. They’ve got other candidates who are about as middling as middling gets. the whole collection of McCain, Thompson, Romney and Giuliani have maybe half the excitement and firepower that Ron Paul does. Certainly Ron Paul has the supporters who are willing to work for him. So what do these Republicans at RedState do? They ban the speech of the Ron Paul supporters.
Even Republicans care about free speech when it is their own. What RedState has done here is offend some highly vocal Republicans. It won’t harm RedState one bit when they hear the whining and complaining from the Ron Paul supporters. But it will hurt the eventual Republican candidate in Fall ‘08, because some of those Ron Paul supporters will not be voting for the eventual Republican candidate, and none of those Ron Paul supporters will work for the eventual Republican candidate. RedState is pissing off the Libertarian wing of the Republican Party, the only wing of the Republican Party that acts like Republicans used to act, with care for balanced budgets, real moral values and sensible foreign policy ruled by facts, not Dick Cheney’s fantasies. (Sorry to put that tiny image of Dick Cheney’s fantasies in your brains — just down a shot or two and maybe you won’t remember the horror.) Yes, RedState’s move will hurt Republicans.
Yeah well, what else would you expect from a bunch of neo-con morons?
See also:
What if the Ron Paul Fans Became SEO Savvy?
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/What_if_the_Ron_Paul_Fans_Became_SEO_Savvy_2
Unbelievable! NY Post takes out Ron Paul poll totals from published results
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Unbelievable_NY_Post_takes_out_Ron_Paul_poll_totals_from_published_results
Ron Paul Rally - Video
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Ron_Paul_Rally_Video
Steven, you might be interested in what Burt Blumert has to say at ‘Ron Paul Is a Big Problem’. Burt’s home page, entitled Burt’s Gold Page is where I go when I’m checking on metals prices. Either of the links above have links to the LewRockwell.com home page, where this a.m.’s headlines include:
Neither Left Nor Right
Or, rather, left and right. Article by Murray N. Rothbard.
The Fires of Socialism
Lew Rockwell on government, environmentalism, and Malibu.
The Washing Machine Lesson
Gary North on what to learn from Maytag’s demise.
Preaching Democracy, Proposing Tyranny
Paul Craig Roberts on the Bush regime.
The Candidates Neocons Love
Murray Sabrin on Hillary and Rudy.
Frank Luntz’s Dog and Pony Show
Rick Fisk on FOX outsmarting itself.
How Ron Paul Could Win the Presidency
A chronology from Benjamin Tyler Fenton.
A Tissue of Neocon Lies
Tom Engelhardt and Chalmers Johnson on the intellectual justifications for the “war on terror.”
‘Elect Me So I Can Nuke Iran’
They all say that except Ron Paul, says Charley Reese.
‘Resisting Arrest’
Is it a moral duty? Article by William Norman Grigg.
‘Stone Age Sex’
Why women live longer than men.
Hayden vs. Mozart
RedState managed to alienate the only group of people that is bringing new life into a Party that is about to die.
They aren’t the smartest bunch.
It’s not just Red State, it’s the whole Republican establishment. I started following Ron Paul BECAUSE of my Republican affiliation. Now, after seeing how they treat a true statesman, I’m about done already. At this point I think I’d rather have someone that I disagree with that truly speaks their mind — rather than another warmed over political flip-flopper. Geez.
The move will hurt RedState, too. I’ve visited the site for the last time.
If a conservative discussion site bans discussion of one of the most conservative candidates in the race, and calls me a liberal for defending Constitutional government, lower taxes, and free markets, they have lost all credibility.
Kevin, I think there are more like you out there. I’m not sold on Paul myself, but was very pleased at the support he got, considering he is the only one who has stood up to what once were traditional conservative values of fiscal responsibility and prudence. I delight in Republicans shooting themselves in the foot by banning his supporters. Yes, this is one more part of the crippling of the Republican Party.
At one of the more recent debates, Ron Paul himself said he would not vote for any of the other repub candidates and I doubt his supporters will either.
They can ban all they want but the Paul supporters aren’t going away. He’s not my choice but his being in the race does give it some color and interest.
Ron Paul Republicans have revitalized the party in NH.
I am a life long republican and I have been for Ron Paul for years.
I started this revolution in February. I’m going to continue it, with in the Repubican party.
RedStaters = Sour Grapers
Also what Craig said is very true:
If a conservative discussion site bans discussion of one of the most conservative candidates in the race, and calls me a liberal for defending Constitutional government, lower taxes, and free markets, they have lost all credibility.
100% NTU
A+ GOA
Repeal RvW
How in the blazes is that ‘liberal’????
Very well said Stephen. I’m an old school conservative, and I support Ron Paul. He’s the real conservative in the race, and it’s a shame that the party loyalist don’t put principle over party.
I was a GOPer then I left because they weren’t fiscally conservative. Now I am back BECAUSE of Ron Paul.
I agree with Patricia.
I am going to try and bring back the GOP in NH to what it once was.
The GOP should be embracing the activism of the Paulites maybe they can get some of those ‘ind’ to be GOPers.
No, NH, the RedStaters are not conservative, unless you think conservatives wish to ban ideas.
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No, NH, the RedStaters are not conservative, unless you think conservatives wish to ban ideas.
Comment by Steven Reynolds — October 24, 2007 @ 4:19 pm
Conservatives? No.
Neo-cons? Oh hell yes. Anyone who doesn’t agree with them is a godless iberal terrorist enabler commie pinko hippy atheist. Or haven’t you been paying attention?
They want their war. They need to prove to themselves they were right.
I think all the Paul supporters should continue to post on Red State and just substitute Tom Tancredo or Mike Huckabee in place of Ron Paul so they have to ban them too.
I mean really, is this a logical approach for a political discussion? Its like saying.. “You can only talk about the current political plan and any new ideas will be suppressed.” What the hell kind of “discussion” is that..?
This guy Wolf is hilarious. One thing though… what was that about “black helicopters?” Last I heard it was wingnuts like Wolf who were afraid of black helicopters. Something about how they were being used by the UN to conquer America on the way to a one world government.
The rad righties were terrified of that imaginary scenario. But they don’t seem to mind the establishment of a one world government run by international corporations. Hell’s bells, that’s the neocon “libertarian” game plan. Don’t these people ever use their heads?
Oh c’mon Dan Van, if they used their heads, they’d leave the party!
Redstate is part of the problem. Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Fox News and Republicans don’t realize how deep the shit they are in actually is.
People like me who was in the Army and voted for W twice are now only backing Ron Paul. If Ron Paul is not the nominee, then I’m voting for the Democratic candidate regardless. Almost all the Republicans I know are doing the same. Hopefully Ron Paul gets the nomination, but we’re not stupid. The media and entire Republican establishment won’t let that happen. They are more like Chavez or Putin than they realize.
So, I think I can safely predict, that unless W pulls Osama out of his ass at the last minute, Hillary or Obama will be the next President of the United States….and the Republicans will have earned their defeat.